The Tudors are pretty much the only historical period we all know at least something about … divorced, beheaded, died? But the story of Henry VIII and his six wives is far more complicated than a playground song, and the legacy of these women needs an urgent rewrite.

Join Eliza and Declan as they discuss the lives and loves of Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, and Jane Seymour, with special guest Kate Lister.

Dr Kate Lister is a podcaster and sex historian, who hosts Betwixt The Sheets. Find her on Spotify or Instagram.